| We are all aware of the serious problems
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| | is now engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan
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| with the Stryker MGS, but now that
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| | (i.e. the turret commander can acquire
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| Stryker Brigades have entered combat, and
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| | targets and direct fire better). The only
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| peace stabilization work in Iraq, a
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| | clear cut advantage that the overhead
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| number of observations have been made.
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| | turret has is in the tank destroyer role.
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| They are a hell of a lot safer than being
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| | Finally, if the US Army bought a batch of
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| in a light armored jeep. They can handle
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| | conventional 105mm turrets for an interim
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| rifle and machine rounds. Smaller IED and
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| | solution, after the overhead turret
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| personnel mines handled without too much
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| | version is fielded those turrets could be
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| difficulty.
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| | removed and easily sold on the world
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| However, they cannot take the punishment
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| | export market.
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| that the M2 Bradley can handle. Even with
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| | One of the problems with the Stryker MGS
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| SLAT armor, they have fallen prey when
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| | is that some people tried to make them a
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| multiple RPG are fired at them. They are
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| | tank replacement. They could have gotten
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| reportedly also taking a lot of damage in
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| | away with a vehicle with more firepower
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| the wheel areas of the vehicles, whereas
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| | over the 25-40mm cannon, with something
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| the tracked M2 would brush them off, keep
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| | like the Canadian Cougar with its short
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| on moving, and fighting.
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| | 76mm gun, and had no problems with
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| Considering the foregoing, do you think
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| | shooting it. However, that would have
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| the Stryker will be relegated a lesser
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| | brought into question the disparity
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| position in the new modular army, with
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| | between the 105-120mm guns on tanks.
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| the M2 being put back into the spotlight.
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| | I have no problems with light armored
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| I note that to date I haven't seen much
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| | forces, after all that is what I served
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| about the speed of the Stryker being of
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| | in, however the Rumsfeld's of the world,
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| much use in convoy or patrol duties,
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| | and lord knows we have our share of them
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| which makes one wonder if the think-tanks
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| | up here, had an agenda and nothing was
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| are hashing this over in terms of light
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| | going to change their ideology, even if
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| mobility that can't handle RPG's let
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| | lives were lost. For me and I'd suggest
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| alone larger munitions.
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| | many others that is the bottom line.
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| The M2/M3 has shown that they can take
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| | It also brings into question the thought
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| more damage, sure, but they're still
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| | processes that the Stryker's would not be
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| vulnerable to RPGs. The other thing that
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| | in frontline combat as this would be left
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| surprised me is that Stryker's tend to do
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| | to tanks and heavier armor in the way of
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| better when hit in the wheel areas than
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| | the M2 and M3, but they somehow forgot
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| Bradley's; the RPG detonates when it hits
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| | how insurgency fighting can be as
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| the tires, meaning it disables the
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| | dangerous as frontline duty. Convoys with
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| vehicle but doesn't punch through the
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| | weaker armor can still cost lives, just
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| armor, while the same hit wouldn't
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| | as frontline combat can and in Iraq that
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| necessarily disable the Bradley but it'd
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| | never ending lesson is played out far too
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| kill everybody inside. I'll ride in the
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| | often.
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| Stryker.
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| | One of the other posters said something
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| Also, the Stryker was never meant to lead
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| | important, IMHO, that these types of
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| an assault when there was real armor
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| | vehicles have a place for base security
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| available; it's supposed to deploy
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| | patrols, true peacekeeping where the
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| quickly like the 82nd did in 1990 for the
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| | belligerents want you there as a buffer
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| Gulf War, and then it's good for
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| | force, but otherwise this use of
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| peacekeeping stuff, plus it's a good
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| | Stryker's in a combat zone has to be
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| platform for middle echelon forces.
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| | rethought. Maybe with newer Stryker's
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| The Stryker's have done pretty good in
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| | that have added armor this situation will
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| Mosul with 1-24 INF. I saw that had been
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| | improve. I know that they have done
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| hit by a car bomb, the only thing really
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| | pretty good in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
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| wrong with it was the tyranny made some
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| | In prior conflicts Canadian troops lost
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| funny noises and it needed some new tires
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| | their legs, and sometimes lives due to
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| and a paint job.
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| | the inherit weakness in the M-113 APC,
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| One item that the Stryker units in Iraq
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| | with the wheels and bottom protection
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| wish they had "the day before" is the
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| | doing what they are supposed to do, and
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| version with the 105mm cannon. But
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| | that is all to the good side of the
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| because of problems with the autoloader
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| | equation. However, without added armor
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| it's IOC has been pushed back to 2008 or
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| | protection that benefit is lost and also
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| 2009. For the life of me I can not figure
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| | the nonsense about making them air
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| out why the US Army does not buy some of
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| | transportable. No way with the added
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| those off the shelf 105mm two man
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| | armor.
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| conventional turrets (Cadillac Gage has
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| | Makes one think again that both
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| them in production for export orders) and
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| | Lockheed-Martin and Boeing have missed
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| fit them to Stryker's for Iraq till the
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| | the boat in not creating a successor to
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| overhead turret version is available.
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| | the Herc, and why the A400M Airbus with
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| Yes, the TOW bunker buster is "some what"
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| | its superior payload capacity while still
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| filling that role (i.e. electrical wires
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| | having the same take off and landing
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| cause problems in urban warfare), but all
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| | requirements of a Herc will win the day
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| the commanders say a conventional cannon
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| | in many purchases from NATO countries.
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| is needed NOW. And in fact the
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| | Unproven yes, but if it does succeed,
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| conventional turret 105mm is much better
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| | LM's lead in the medium military lift
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| for the type of warfare that the US Army
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| | field will be extinguished.
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